A Working - greater output than input device

[Mr.Tom]

What is a greater output than input device?

It is too complicated.  to explain in so many words.

( fill free to comment )

[Mozart]

Maybe a drawing would be helpful

[Mozart]

Hi Tom,

Attachments are just fine, they open in a new page full size. But to be honest i think we already learned this in early years in school, basic knowledge.
May i suggest to show something more advanced ? Unless you want to teach 10 years old kids

[Mozart]

Hi Tom,

Never was my intention to jump right to the last page. But when you just show a balance between 2 weights without any explanation, what should i need to think ?

Anyway, if you keep posting drawings without explanations won’t do any good. So, in your new drawings i can see magnets have a different angle for the superior part between positive and negative input on the outside and the pattern in same for inferior part. Also, no idea what is what. I found interesting that looks similar with another invention of Stefan Marinov. See attachment.

[JoeLag]

Hi Tom,

Never was my intention to jump right to the last page. But when you just show a balance between 2 weights without any explanation, what should i need to think ?

Anyway, if you keep posting drawings without explanations won’t do any good. So, in your new drawings i can see magnets have a different angle for the superior part between positive and negative input on the outside and the pattern in same for inferior part. Also, no idea what is what. I found interesting that looks similar with another invention of Stefan Marinov. See attachment.

Or maybe something like this?

   

[tachyoncatcher]

Hi Tom,
I'm familiar with your work. You use the bias of magnetic attraction and polarity to suggest overunity by breaking the symmetry of magnetic balance with a rotating magnet and harvesting that using ferromagnetic attraction that results from the broken symmetry. Is that about it?

Also, here are your images at an easier to see size:

[Mozart]

I really don’t care what mainstream science say about anything as long as i have a working device able to output power needed for domestic use.

[tachyoncatcher]

Let’s talk about Magnet Motors.
Working magnet motors do exist. Probably since the industrial age. More commonly known since the 70s with the Howard Johnson motor. They all have the same problems.
• Expensive to build
• Low torque
• Short lived
The only magnets, so far, that have been strong enough to provide ANY significant torque are the rare earth magnets. These are expensive and limited in earthly resources to make.

Magnets have different energies to take advantage of. Polarity attraction/repulsion. Ferromagnetism, the attraction forces of a magnet to iron. The polarity forces will always balance out. However, if your geometry is clever, you can create torque with the ferromagnetism. Ferromagnetism is the weaker of the two forces, so torque created is weak. Thus, for the mass involved in the construction, torque is weak.

All magnet motors to date have consumed their magnetism during operation. This makes them inconsistent for our typical needs of consistent torque to do work. As the magnet motor runs, it’s magnets get weaker, torque lowers, and so does speed. The ferromagnetic material will take on a polarity with time and also stop the functionality of the motor. This can be overcome with geometry, but then you speed up the reduction of magnetism in your driving magnets.

I would love to see a long term, working magnet motor that has no consumables. As in the need to replace the driving magnets. Yes, magnets can be recharged, but then what is the point. If you add electricity and electromagnets to the mix, then you have yourself an electric motor. With the exception of low torque pulse motors, electric motors can function at +90% efficiency. This is not the overunity we seek. I would love to see or build a working, permanent magnetic device that uses no electricity or generates more electricity than it consumes. Which reminds me of the urban legend of the Lockridge motor which no one has seen or been able to replicate

[JoeLag]

Let’s talk about Magnet Motors.
Working magnet motors do exist.  Probably since the industrial age.  More commonly known since the 70s with the Howard Johnson motor.  They all have the same problems.
• Expensive to build
• Low torque
• Short lived
The only magnets, so far, that have been strong enough to provide ANY significant torque are the rare earth magnets.  These are expensive and limited in earthly resources to make. 

Magnets have different energies to take advantage of.  Polarity attraction/repulsion.  Ferromagnetism, the attraction forces of a magnet to iron.  The polarity forces will always balance out.  However, if your geometry is clever, you can create torque with the ferromagnetism.  Ferromagnetism is the weaker of the two forces, so torque created is weak.  Thus, for the mass involved in the construction, torque is weak.

All magnet motors to date have consumed their magnetism during operation.  This makes them inconsistent for our typical needs of consistent torque to do work.  As the magnet motor runs, it’s magnets get weaker, torque lowers, and so does speed.  The ferromagnetic material will take on a polarity with time and also stop the functionality of the motor.  This can be overcome with geometry, but then you speed up the reduction of magnetism in your driving magnets.

I would love to see a long term, working magnet motor that has no consumables.  As in the need to replace the driving magnets.  Yes, magnets can be recharged, but then what is the point.  If you add electricity and electromagnets to the mix, then you have yourself an electric motor.  With the exception of low torque pulse motors, electric motors can function at +90% efficiency.  This is not the overunity we seek.  I would love to see or build a working, permanent magnetic device that uses no electricity or generates more electricity than it consumes.  Which reminds me of the urban legend of the Lockridge motor which no one has seen or been able to replicate

the Lockridge motor, Was that the pack of wires on a control board that was given to Bedini in a box to figure out?

[tachyoncatcher]

The Lockridge motor was a old Delco/Remy generator that was rewired to both motor and generate. It ran itself and could output about 300watts for a resistive load of lights. The lights were part of the circuit. They were in series and if one burnt out, the device would stop working. It also ate brushes.

As the story goes, Lockridge was in Germany during WW2 and found the device in a German bunker. Packed it up and sent it home. It was based on a Bosch Generator so he reverse engineered it and built his based on the Delco/Remy equivalent. He sold them as generators for off-grid camping. Bedini did get a box of parts to look at, but he found out later the parts were not of an actual Lockridge Generator, but someone's attempt to replicate one. No one in this field of research has seen an actual device constructed by Lockridge.