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(06-23-2024, 05:05 PM)Pass Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Joel,
I just finished watching your video https://youtu.be/7Q4VKTt0Npk?si=MbMmKXT2RSuv1Wsb

Thank you for this.

I'm curious about what you had in mind that you couldn't say it in the video because it could be unsafe. You said you could send a private message for those who are curious. 

Please send me a private message regarding this.

Thanks again.

I have a magic garden crystal kit copper zinc battery working for ten years without recharging, Add a mixture consisting of 100-ml sodium silicate solution with 400 ml distilled water., the magic rocks are like DNA building and electricity consumption deplete them but they build up again recharging alone. https://www.thoughtco.com/make-your-own-...cks-607653 As the silicate crystals grow the battery recharges alone.
In the light of new revelations made by Joel Lagace for his PEG cells some explanations may be offered by analyse of Faraday cage: please see Operation inside and outside https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field related to Faraday cage.

A timid approach on electrostatic induction is mentioned as well.
I have tried keeping the dipole open using the peg cell which gave me 0.6 volts without conditioning them and i connected the peg cell with a 3.7v cell 2400 mah battery but it couldnt light up the LED i dont know what went wrong i measured the voltage after the led was connected it dropped so low. how can i increase the current and also keep the potential at 3.7v + 0.6v = 4.3 volts atleast. please help me out guys.
(07-10-2024, 10:06 AM)rajendra1904 Wrote: [ -> ]I have tried keeping the dipole open using the peg cell which gave me 0.6 volts without conditioning them and i connected the peg cell with a 3.7v cell 2400 mah battery but it couldnt light up the LED i dont know what went wrong i measured the voltage after the led was connected it dropped so low. how can i increase the current and also keep the potential at 3.7v + 0.6v = 4.3 volts atleast. please help me out guys.

You need about 100v so that at low current the PEG cell provides in series it enough to drive the LED or charge a cap dump etc...
Various synthetics (fluoro-polymers, polypropylene, polypropylene-terephthalate) exhibit molecules which are "directional" in a strong electrostatic field.
For all 'electret' materials goes that the ohmic resistance should be low and remain so after the 'polarization' has taken place.
The best materials to date are: (organic): Teflon; this appears to stay directed stable for many years. (Inorganic molecules): Quartz (SiO2), (MnO2), TiO2) also show "electret" properties.
The negative charge section in these molecules is located at the O atoms. It should be noted: Atoms, in the transitional area, such as Cr, Mn and to a lesser extent Si and Ti are not strong positive or

even negative, but with respect to the two O atoms in their oxides, which are strongly negative, is there indeed bipolarity.
For the organic "waxes" and with cellulose their di-polarity shows from the fact that concentrations of O atoms, respectively, of OH groups, at one end of these longer molecules exist.


All info available on Arie Melis deGeus patents attached, quote from patent 1032043
@Joel, if you wish to make bigger PEG cells, you may need to have a look at Tesla patent for fabrication of capacitors … you need a vacuum pump … just poring PEG in a pipe it won’t cut it for what you want for obvious reasons … this is what I think.

Also you can combine PEG with another polymer which is conductive … chatgpt may help you to find the right solution.

In fabrication of electrets the old school says to use 2 types of wax, why ??

I already tried teflon tape for plumbing and works in my cells ? wrapping a bit of magnesium ribbon with teflon tape then wrap on top soft annealed black iron wire … 1.2-1.3 v per cell and size will make you laugh.
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